can you tell us what that would be? >> of course. we're the state with the largest number of immigrants. we have 2.5 million undocumented immigrants and we've got a third of our registered voters are lawful immigrants. so any way you cut it, it's going to have a huge impact. some of the -- and there's a lot in here for everyone. employers, students who came here at a young age. they're called dreamers. agricultural workers. some of the things that people may not be aware of, in the president's proposal, lgbt families will be able to sponsor their family members. >> and that's from the president's proposal but not in the so-called gang of eight. >> it's not in the gang of eight proposal. but i think one of other issues for californians to, in terms of watching this debate and participating in it, is to understand what the road blocks are. because it's not just smooth sailing. there's a lot of concern about high fines for low-income immigrants. the requirements such as civics and english. even before you can get a green card. those are